Isaiah 15-16

16v10. Joy and gladness are taken away from the orchards; no one sings or shouts in the vineyards; no one treads out wine at the presses, for I have put an end to the shouting.

- I see some major symbolism here..at least i think..the grapes are trampled on with no mercy, all the joy and gladness are taken away. And yet the juice pours out "into the wine vat", says the translation. So..God can take our joy and gladness away, or we can experience it through the world, but it still produces fruit? in the end, the good juice pours out and there is an end to the shouting.

these chapters are so confusing...